Comments on: Effective digital preservation is (almost) impossible; so Disseminate instead http://wwmm.ch.cam.ac.uk/blogs/murrayrust/?p=2159 A Scientist and the Web Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:48:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: ArchivePress » Blog Archive » Our first month http://wwmm.ch.cam.ac.uk/blogs/murrayrust/?p=2159&cpage=1#comment-369071 ArchivePress » Blog Archive » Our first month Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:08:21 +0000 http://wwmm.ch.cam.ac.uk/blogs/murrayrust/?p=2159#comment-369071 [...] also had some highly useful discussions about the project on the JISC-PoWR blog and at Peter Murray-Rust’s blog. Among the things I’ve learned from them is [...] [...] also had some highly useful discussions about the project on the JISC-PoWR blog and at Peter Murray-Rust’s blog. Among the things I’ve learned from them is [...]

]]> By: pm286 http://wwmm.ch.cam.ac.uk/blogs/murrayrust/?p=2159&cpage=1#comment-367729 pm286 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:54:49 +0000 http://wwmm.ch.cam.ac.uk/blogs/murrayrust/?p=2159#comment-367729 @Richard many thanks - I agree with all of this. Let's assume the primary mechanism of commmunication was the pamphlet, flyer, bill, etc. and that we stuck these on every wall, lampost, etc. If copying is cheap that's the equivalent of the OPEN - and it must be Open - approach. I very strongly agree. Now - what are we going to DO about it. We are trying to develop software that does this. Peter Sefton is doing this with ICE. If we have this type of system on everyone's desktop and sprayed our output everywhere then we would have publication and we would have preservation. Maybe Google wave will do it @Richard many thanks - I agree with all of this. Let’s assume the primary mechanism of commmunication was the pamphlet, flyer, bill, etc. and that we stuck these on every wall, lampost, etc. If copying is cheap that’s the equivalent of the OPEN - and it must be Open - approach.
I very strongly agree.
Now - what are we going to DO about it. We are trying to develop software that does this. Peter Sefton is doing this with ICE. If we have this type of system on everyone’s desktop and sprayed our output everywhere then we would have publication and we would have preservation. Maybe Google wave will do it

]]> By: Richard M. Davis http://wwmm.ch.cam.ac.uk/blogs/murrayrust/?p=2159&cpage=1#comment-367725 Richard M. Davis Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:34:36 +0000 http://wwmm.ch.cam.ac.uk/blogs/murrayrust/?p=2159#comment-367725 Hello Peter, Thanks for noticing our little endeavour. I too have lost untold stuff (I'd hesitate to call it data) over the years; though equally I know I have on this MacBook some files that originated on an Acorn Electron in my student days, and have subsequently been 'migrated' through various DOSes, MacOSes and Unices over the years, with much line-ending and charset surgery en route. Personal preservation is non-trivial and I agree the dissemination (LOCKSS) approach probably gets the best bang-per-buck; at the other end of the scale, we have massive endeavours by the likes of Google, BL, Internet Archive. The simple proposition at the heart of our project is: what if we made it ridiculously easy for any institution (department, centre, library, whatever) to set up a WordPress blog to sit silently in the background, ping the feeds of affiliated public blogs and bloggers, and import the content into a single blog database, easy to search, sort, cite and preserve as part of the institutional record? Personally I think this is just the kind of thing I'd want to see in my Library Of The Future. As the kind of blogger who I think ought to be represented in such an institutional archive, do you think we might be able to persuade you to "strongly agree or agree" that this might be a worthwhile undertaking? :) Hello Peter, Thanks for noticing our little endeavour. I too have lost untold stuff (I’d hesitate to call it data) over the years; though equally I know I have on this MacBook some files that originated on an Acorn Electron in my student days, and have subsequently been ‘migrated’ through various DOSes, MacOSes and Unices over the years, with much line-ending and charset surgery en route.

Personal preservation is non-trivial and I agree the dissemination (LOCKSS) approach probably gets the best bang-per-buck; at the other end of the scale, we have massive endeavours by the likes of Google, BL, Internet Archive. The simple proposition at the heart of our project is: what if we made it ridiculously easy for any institution (department, centre, library, whatever) to set up a WordPress blog to sit silently in the background, ping the feeds of affiliated public blogs and bloggers, and import the content into a single blog database, easy to search, sort, cite and preserve as part of the institutional record?

Personally I think this is just the kind of thing I’d want to see in my Library Of The Future. As the kind of blogger who I think ought to be represented in such an institutional archive, do you think we might be able to persuade you to “strongly agree or agree” that this might be a worthwhile undertaking? :)

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